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[kaye]

Kristina,

What is a person to do? If all I put into the ad is the technical 
requirement and an a brief description of what the new hire will do, I 
don't think I serve neither the hiring company nor the interested 
candidate well. I'd rather add a few descriptors about the place and 
their business. Some are teasers, some are substance. This is one of the 
things that makes communications between people interesting.

As for the two things you singled out, here's my thoughts:

Relaxed means a lot more than no dress code. It means that the manager 
isn't looking at the clock, and doesn't require a lot of face time. It 
means people work together instead of competitively. And so on.

As for the business of a company, some things are hard to precisely pin 
down in a phrase.

What's Google's business? Is it search? is it advertising? is it 
content? is it all of the above and more? How would you define it in ten 
or fewer words without giving away who the company is?

Dialog is good. If I can serve the community better and get people 
interested in the jobs I'm trying to fill, I am happy. But it's possible 
that you are trying too hard to parse an ad that is trying to telegraph 
some information without wasting a lot of time.

Art


Kristina Anderson wrote:
> stuff like
>
> Environment: Relaxed
>
> actually means "we all wear really hideous casual clothing, and we want 
> you to dress this way too, because if you're comfortable in your funny 
> shorts and faded t-shirt, then we think you won't realize that you are 
> working 12 hour days in a slavepit without even some non-soundproof 
> cubicle walls to call your own."
>
> This is a prime example of what you do not want to say.
> Programmers don't care about dress codes.  Even if there is one, we are 
> going to dress the way we want to dress anyway.
>
> also, exactly WHAT is "in the space between e-commerce and content / ad 
> driven"...?    
>
>
> --Kristina
>
>
>   
>> Listening to the list last night and this morning, why not tell us 
>> recruiters, both in-house and agency, what you want to see in the ads?
>>
>> I've cut this down to the bone. I've got more information but all the 
>> verbiage in an email isn't as good as a 10 minute conversation with 
>>     
> me, 
>   
>> and a face to face with the client company.
>>
>> If you are interested, or you want more information, drop me an e-
>>     
> mail 
>   
>> or give me a call. The number's there.
>>
>> This is an employee position.
>>
>> Location: Union Square, NYC
>> Company type: small, interactive, whose profitable business is in the 
>> space between e-commerce and content / ad driven.
>> Environment: Relaxed
>> The need: a strong Object Oriented PHP developer who likes to write 
>> complex SQL statements and can also produce excellent front end AJAX.
>>
>> The team is multi-national, as is the senior management.
>>
>> What will you be doing? Creating scalable websites whose hit numbers 
>>     
> go 
>   
>> from 10s of thousands to 10s of millions. Growing - expected to 
>>     
> double 
>   
>> in size in two years.
>>
>> Excellent benefits.
>> Salary, depending on experience, to 95K + bonuses.
>>
>> All replies in confidence.
>>
>> -- 
>> What's around the corner? 
>>  
>> Arthur Kaye		    Concepts in Staffing 
>> v.212-293-4353	    9 E. 37th St. 2nd floor 
>> f. 212-652-0789	    New York, NY 10016 
>> kaye at cisny.com           212-725-0300 
>> http://www.cisny.com/
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